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  A House Divided Against Itself Falls-Luke 11:17

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

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  that text reminds me of one of a handful of problems peculiar to the ex-jw community.

  second only to the wild beast's internal divisions, is the divided makeup of the ex-jw populace.

  you know the one thing that indicates jehovah's blessing upon the worldwide association of kingdom proclaimers, is not only the continued success of the preaching work, but along with it the unity and love amongst the brothers and sisters.

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  Black Sheep

  "Some of you I believe Armageddon didn't come on your stopwatch and so you gave up. It was all about petting a Panda bear for you or having a wildebeest farm."

  I know where you got that idea from. It's been parroted by the Watchtower every time members start leaving after their pretend god has demonstrated his non existance by not showing up to do what the Watchtower leaders pretended he promised he would do.

  NWT 1 Kings 18:27 And it came about at noon that E·li′jah began to mock them and say: “Call at the top of YOUR voice, for he is a god; for he must be concerned with a matter, and he has excrement and has to go to the privy.
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  Jehovah in the New Testament (New NWT bible )

  by jhine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just seen in the flesh , or paper , the new nwt .

  my witness friends were delighted with it showing me all the new features like the glossary of terms and explanations of the hows and whys .

  i did ask about actual content , acting daft not letting on that i knew anything about it .

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  Black Sheep

  It isn't up to us to provide evidence of the non existance of something that doesn't exist. It is up to the person making the claim to provide evidence that it does exist.

  What we can do is encourage them into the mental effort and research to prove the non existance to themselves.
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  The Real Aftermath of the AGM...Part 2

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  for the ones based in britain only the "few" were invited to attend the agm .they received their new grey bible and the rumor was that the new bible will not be available for the rest of the congragations until january .it was confirmed tonight .a letter was read as local announcement that the new bibles will not be available until the end of january for the rest of the congragation .all the in crowd were sat there with their new flashy bible looking smug.also the bible reading was read from the new bible to make it all the more obvious ..... the real aftermath of agm....

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  Black Sheep

  I guess they wouldn't be too happy that I have one already then?
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  What color is your bible?

  by Faithful Witness in

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  2. friends

  what a great way to divide the sheep and goats, both within and outside the great flock!

  jehovah has given us new light.

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  Black Sheep

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  Are MOST JW's lacking Moral Fibre ?

  by Phizzy in

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  2. friends

  i find that whether born in or converts, most jw's give their own conscience over to the gb (and writing dept) to dictate how they will react to any moral question.. they simply lack a conscience of their own.. this is not their fault, we should not look down on them for this, their conscience, their natural feeling of what is right and wrong has been:.

  stolen from them !.

  we all know how the cult does this to them, it did it to us, i really am almost in tears when i think that had either of my darling children needed a blood transfusion i would have resisted, believing what i have been taught all my life, that their eternal life was more important than their life now.. how can we persuade jw's to take back their conscience ?.

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  Black Sheep

  I don't think it is about getting them to hear what we are saying. It is about getting them to think about stuff that they already know about, but are suppressing.

  They want Jehovah gOdd to hurry up and bring Paradise, but they don't really like the idea of innocent kids of non-JWs being indiscriminately killed, so they try tricks to minimise these deaths to themselves, or to blank out the thoughts. Our job is to pick the scabs off their faulty repair jobs and get them thinking about the WT crap they are being fed.
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  Apologies for outage

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  looks like the forum went down (right after i went to bed, doh!)..

  i really should get some monitoring setup but it's been pretty rock solid for ages so i've never bothered.. must be something todo with all the tinkering i've been doing and the background job i started running yesterday.. anyway, sorry for anyone who's been trying to access the site..

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  Black Sheep

  ...and I was thinking it had something to do with my 1000 word essay on how to engineer the downfall of the bOrg.
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  Gran is dying.

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my dear granny hasn't been feeling well for some time and has had a problem keeping anything down.

  she had lost a lot of weight and gone for many tests.

  those tests came back and on friday we were told she has cancer of the pancreas.

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  Black Sheep

  Sorry to hear this LouBelle. My thoughts will be with you.

  ((((LouBelle))))

  Chris
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  Hear Ye!!!Hear Ye!! WONDERFUL GOOD NEWS!!!!

  by mouthy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my jw daughter called me this afternoon!!!!!

  !i am just over the moon.

  her hubby not a jw has cancer & was operated on today!!!!.

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  Black Sheep

  That's lovely to hear Grace. Made my day.
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  Are you the huggy sort?

  by Ucantnome in

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  2. physical

  i don't really do hugs and kisses.

  my wife went to hug me this morning and i instinctively backed away.

  we laughed.

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  Black Sheep

  I always do hugs and kisses. It must be their choice to refrain.

  When a family member dies, I'm there. What happens is their choice, not mine.
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  Help with making a "timeline of beliefs"

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would like your help in making a "timeline of beliefs" for jw's... for example, i want to start with:.

  "a jw/bs would have believed the following in 1880:.

  the last days started in 1799.. jesus's parousia occurred in 1874.. jesus started reigning in 1878.. the end of the harvest will be in 1914.. the end of the gentile times will be in 1914.. the end of the world will be in 1914.. belief in the ransom sacrifice is vital for salvation.. hell is not a bible doctrine.. .

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  Black Sheep

  The doctrine of Noo Lite is common to all cults, only the name changes. Anyone wanting to follow the timeline of any WT doctrinal changes has oodles of resources on the net and their WTCD.

  If us non/ex/op/dubs need a list of tools, maybe it should rated on effectiveness rather than just another list to be ignored by the drones.